Tuesday, August 4, 2015

Beyond Known Steps

Well, I told myself I wasn't going to write a response to David Grant's Analyzing Ancapistan at Social Matter because I wanted to move into a different direction.  But, here I am.  Why?  Partly because I believe Mr. Grant when he says he is genuinely interested in "a beautiful dialogue" and, most importantly from all else, I know once social and culture structures are identified and explored--once these are added to the anarchocapitalist framework-- then the flesh is on the bone and I have something quite different.

I wish to very briefly discuss some points of disagreement in Mr. Grant's article--brief because I've seen most of these before and because I wish to move to more fruitful material.

Problems-

Abolish the state, then......, Profit ( profit, profit ).  It's easy to see that Mr. Grant's stay as an anarchocapitalist was brief...either by chronos or kairos.  Almost all new or shallow-tested anrchocapitalist tend to concentrate on profit. This is expected, this is the beginning...not the end. They tend to conflate profit with value. This almost always leads to trouble.  Remember all value is subjective.  Mr. Grant confuses the order a bit--for anarchocapitalists it is: ......, abolish the state or rather self-death of the state ( implosion ), value ( which includes profit ).  Deeply grounded Rothbardians understand that profit comes last, that profit is the least of all. Capitalism is about social cooperation, not greed.  Mr. Grant wishes to simplify the difficulty of removing the state but you cannot do this.  No serious anarchocapitalist would theorize the abolition of the state as a time-short easy task.  To simplify this step, even for the sake of conversation, is to give birth to superficiality and the genesis of unwise results.  Arriving at the abolition of the state involves traveling across vast distances in the human mind not merely enduring the passage of time. So the "......" is the most difficult, the most unknowable.  The application of Mises' praxeology and Hayek's Theory of Spontaneous Order leads anarchocapitalist to the ultimate conclusion: that the getting from here to the there part ( "...." ) is the single most difficult step.  So it is ridiculous to say that by magically removing the state so many of the remaining non-state institutions remain--this is exactly the point. In the absence of the state, no institution has a monopoly on aggressive action.

Mr. Grant then turns to the issue of human interaction by contract and convention, both within the community and outside the community. He uses the term "tacit consent" to indicate that somehow in private law covenant communities there will be individuals that remain in the community without explicit contract.  This is so wrong it's almost humorous,  "Tacit Consent" is simply the social contract theory renamed, Mr. Grant should read up on this as libertarians have long dealt this a death blow.  To the contrary, entering into and remaining within a covenant community would require agreement with a detailed and rigorously defined contract ( with exit clauses ) most probably published publicly for all to verify.  As for conflict between communities over scarce goods, there will always be a tendency to resolve the conflict peacefully for two reasons.  It is almost universally less resource-depleting to resolve conflicts peacefully than to use violence and surrounding, neighboring, and bordering communities will likely be highly vested to mediate the conflict in order to avoid wasting resources and disrupting peaceful commerce.  An added consideration--if two communities are in conflict over a scarce good it is highly probably that all bordering communities have mutual defense and resolution compacts with these communities and will pressure both to resolve the conflict peacefully.  I think Mr. Grant attempts in several places to push forward the notion that in an anarchocapitalistic world there will remain conflict and this somehow weakens our case. Nonsense! Human nature is imperfect so there will always be conflict, it is not the task of anarchocapitalism to remove the original stain from mankind.  Anarchocapitalism need only demonstrate that it can provide better answers in general. As a political and legal theory, I think it does.

Let's turn to Mr. Grant's thesis:
  "My argument, put simply, is that anarcho-capitalists should become neoreactionaries."

Well, using his own standards he fails this entirely. Throughout the article he demonstrates to anarchocapitalists that he has misunderstood and distorted anarchocapitalism and most importantly he uses his resources to critique our position and not persuade us with the benefits of his position.  Both are required and he failed at both.  In order to earnestly persuade your point to another person, in this case I should become a neoreactionary, it is necessary to demonstrate not simply the deficiency of my position but also the benefit of your position.  I have no doubt, from prior conversation, that Mr. Grant is well intended in his effort but good intentions are not enough.  Without a proper understand of the subject matter, good intentions are often destructive.  Mr. Grant seems to be saying throughout simply this: that his understanding of non-state institutions ( cathedral ) is more dangerous to the community than the state.  Yet, he does not offer any compelling reason, based on neoreactionary thought or any other for that matter, for an anarchocapitalist to "become" a neoreactionary--he only offers a distorted, poorly understood, and extremely shallow critique of anarchocapitalism.  This is not enough.

A study of natural law leads us to understand that the state accumulates ever increasing power--this distorts private exchange and also, because of human nature, attracts those who wish to use it for their own purposes. These two things cannot be undone by re-engineering the social structure found within the nation-state model. Human nature ( action ) will always prevail.

It is my suggestion that neoreactionaries who wish to engage anarchocapitalists for whatever purposes do so, but having a clear understanding of anarchocapitalism is essential for a beneficial dialogue.  I think there is hay to be made with some neoreactionaries on matters of social/cultural structure and economics ( while the sun shines ) but it is foolish and unproductive to do this in the dark of night.


8 comments:

  1. Thanks for the response, David. I'm writing up a rebuttal to a different critic that addresses some of your concerns. You should know, however, that I spent several years as an anarcho-capitalist, reading up on it and defending it in debates. It is generally bad form to claim that your interlocutor doesn't understand something whenever you disagree with him, even if you're right--I've done that myself more than a few times, and it tends to annoy rather than contribute to constructive conversation.

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    1. Thanks for your reply, David. I will await your rebuttal to the other article and look forward to reading it. Thanks, also, for the information--I have, also, spent time in many a debate on this matter. It is bad form to make personal attacks or to claim someone doesn't understand a position without providing some reasonable feedback as to why. I did not do the former, I did do the later. It is very much within reasonableness to assess that someone does not grasp a position that you hold by pointing out areas you think they misunderstand and then demonstrate in a reasonable and respectful way as to why you think this is true. I think I was quite generous given the overall tone of your article and its lack of persuasion in favor of your position. Regardless, it was my intention to address where I think you missed the mark by giving you honest, direct, and no nonsense feedback—not to create some type of ill will.

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    2. "I did not do the former, I did do the later."

      I did though.
      Let's assume he's correct.

      If so, then this remains: he claimed I believed things I do not believe, and these were things I got from other people calling themselves ancap. Speaking of things that are not productive...

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    3. Thanks for stopping by and commenting. The insight of your comment confirms what I think: the best way to persuade is to be persuasive.

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  2. The advertised point of Mr. Grant's essay (converting ACs to NRx) is more or less impossible in the amount of space that he used. Not sure I quite agree with either of you, but I do appreciate the thoughtful response. It's a welcome marker of all-too-rare civilization these days.

    With that said, I thought that this excerpt completely ignores the history of human nature. Several of these factors can easily accelerate conflict, rather than limiting it. The ingredients of Fear, Greed, Honor haven't gone away - and the competitive cycle they set in motion is remorselessly Darwinian. Any ideology that must wish them away is a dead fantasy walking. You say:

    "As for conflict between communities over scarce goods, there will always be a tendency to resolve the conflict peacefully for two reasons. It is almost universally less resource-depleting to resolve conflicts peacefully than to use violence and surrounding, neighboring, and bordering communities will likely be highly vested to mediate the conflict in order to avoid wasting resources and disrupting peaceful commerce."

    Or, you can believe that you can incite the conflict, then swoop in to pick up lots of resources at a discount afterward. They will appreciate under your future management, which will be of the controlling interest variety instead of the ancillary benefits variety. That can turn a profit (for the acquirer, anyway) even if the overall value remains below the initial pre-war baseline. Or, you may calculate that the losses incurred from the future displeasure of the winner requires risky commitment in the present. Or... etc.

    "An added consideration--if two communities are in conflict over a scarce good it is highly probably that all bordering communities have mutual defense and resolution compacts with these communities and will pressure both to resolve the conflict peacefully. "

    See: World War I, a.k.a. The Great War for a counter-example of how that can work out. On a more personal level, how often do mutual friends etc. act as a brake on nasty divorces? Or are they simply forced to take sides, and often get drawn in themselves?

    I'm not saying that the scenario you explain can't work - note Greece, Turkey & NATO. The question is whether it will work this way even a majority of the time. Which means your theory needs, at the very least, a strong Plan B to avoid Darwin's Reaper. Does anarcho-capitalism have one?

    My proposed rule is that these theories should be run past a popular high school girl, phrased in social terms she understands. If she can't demolish that theory of conflict within 10 minutes, submit it to the public for further examination.

    The down-side of this approach is that it would leave 85%+ of western political theorists unemployed.

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    1. Thanks for your comment. It's perfectly fine to disagree with me--in fact I welcome it. Is there a better way to explore your own ideas or new ones? Yes, even though I decided to keep my response in dialogue format I did try to maintain an honest and respectful tone...even in disagreement. I would have much preferred to see an argument in favor of moving to an NRx position based on the strengths of NRX rather than the weaknesses of AnCap.

      Now with respect to both of your points, the conflict of resources and bordering communities support ( or lack thereof ) in reducing conflict, you make strong points and I can admit there is a fair amount of weakness in my thinking. This is true primarily for one reason. Much of my thinking relies heavily on changing attitudes and behaviors among individuals and groups in the future. This may or may not occur. This is why I so heavily emphasized that in order to achieve a stateless world, a great deal of change in mankind would have to occur. To the point, when I propose this to other anarchocapitalists I usually get the “oh, it'll take anywhere from 10,000 to 100,000 years—if at all—for this to happen” answer.

      As for your proposed test for political theories, well, perhaps we should be employing this test on the current political order.

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    2. My problem is that I'm not sure I believe in NRx, either. So yes, a more positive argument would have been welcome to both of us. With that said, it was fair of them to point out AnCap's weakness.

      "As for your proposed test for political theories, well, perhaps we should be employing this test on the current political order."

      Which does look a lot like a high-school girls' clique. Just without the same level of intelligence directing it.

      "Much of my thinking relies heavily on changing attitudes and behaviors among individuals and groups in the future."

      Species can change, and if you believe the HBD people there is relevant evolutionary evidence already. I agree with your friends that we're a very long way away, however, which means that philosophies requiring this change are non-viable as present political philosophies.

      They might work as religions, in an environment of separation of church and state (real separation, not the current unacknowledged Leftist theocracy).

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    3. Thanks for your comments, Joe. I've recently started reading some HBD material and I've found some really useful information.

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